Tom Ritchford
3 min readMar 23, 2023

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Thanks so much for your long and interesting reply. I particularly sympathize with the last sentence, which sums up my three areas of interest too. (But the last link in your profile is dead! :-/)

Nevertheless, I disagree. :-)

I read through this twice, but I'm going to concentrate on something you said early, because this is the key dispute.

You believe that even though Joe Rogan has caused tremendous damage, he's not a bad person.

What would this even mean? How can you make $120 million on pushing hateful lies, and still be a good person? Rogan certainly knows the consequences of his lies; he has been confronted with the evidence of his lies; and yet he persists.

Rogan knows he has a huge megaphone, and he uses that megaphone to push the people who rouse the most anger. And logically, the reason these people are enraging is nearly always because they are telling terrible lies.

What I think you mean is that while Rogan causes tremendous damage, that "in his heart" he is a not a bad person.

Well, you can't possibly know that. This person is a professional entertainer and has been his whole life. What you mean is that his persona is cheerful and friendly, and you deduce from that that he's not a bad person.

And it makes no difference anyway. Most people consider themselves good people, even people who are objectively evil. Joe Rogan has set out to have a career of spreading hatred and lies, and has made $120 million dollars out of it. Who cares what he sees himself as?

When you have a huge platform like that, it is your moral responsibility to make sure you aren't doing something terrible with it and Rogan has done exactly the reverse.

He bears responsibility for his own actions. No one forced him to become a ravening monster spreading lies. He did it for the money. It is his responsibility.

And let me tell you that their side doesn't give the same courtesy to us. They portray us as child rapists, sexual perverts, leaches who want to take money away from hard-working people, traitors, cowards, people who want to hold others back strictly out of envy, and repeat over and over that all of us should be dead or in jail.

There is no point in trying to refute such people. No one will read your refutation except people who are already on your side. Indeed, it just encourages the evil people to be more evil. “Look, it’s working!”

You should definitely get out of the South, my God. I cannot imagine.

We moved to the Netherlands six years ago, and it cost me most of everything I had, but it was worth it, and I was lucky to have the opportunity.

It isn't as progressive as it once was, but still, you have very strong protection as a sexual or gender minority.

As an example, the colloquial Dutch word for "gay" is "homo" which shocked me because it's a slur in the Anglosphere, but the queer community uses it too, and one day I realized that it's not a slur here because no one(*) thinks being gay is wrong or unusual.

New York was always very tolerant, but it's expensive, and the winters are cold if you are from the South.

The West seems like a good choice - any leads?

Very best wishes, and good luck!

(* - well, there's a Bible Belt here too, millions of them, but they stay away from the cities.)

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